From IT Tester to Managing Director: 15 years ago I would have considered it science fiction, says Michal

Michal joined msg life Slovakia 15 years ago, and is now the company’s managing director. In this interview, he reflects on his career, viewing it as a unique opportunity offered by the company that he embraced with great responsibility. He also mentions the challenges that msg will face in the coming years, highlighting the importance of work-life balance. He talks about how he got into testing and offers advice to those considering a career in IT or looking to advance.

Let’s start at the beginning. Please, describe how you started at msg life Slovakia.

I started as a hotline agent in 2009, later becoming an IT tester. In my role on the hotline, I provided customer support for COR Slovakia, the predecessor of msg. My responsibilities included logging bug reports, redistributing them internally and providing clients with updates on our progress. This role often brought me into direct contact with customers. To this day, that position is still active.

Do you have a degree in IT or insurance?

No, I think what helped me the most in the interview was my strong language skills, particularly in German and English. That’s still the case in more junior positions today – language skills are fundamental, and the technical side can be learned quite quickly. Of course, a willingness to learn new things and move forward is also important. I had that, and I soon started looking for a testing position.

What attracted you to the field of testing?

As well as communicating with customers, I also came into contact with analysts, developers, and IT testers. Since testing is the ‘gateway to IT’, I decided this was the direction in which I should move. It was a natural fit. I joined a team led by my colleague Michaela — read her interview: Cloud Deployment. At the time, I had no idea that I would be replacing her in a management role so quickly.

Were you surprised?

Yes, I was. I took over leadership of the testing team just a few months after starting as a tester. I quickly got to grips with the issues, started solving tasks and began working on projects. I was promoted to managing director this year, but the move from tester to team leader surprised me more. I think that’s one of the unique things about msg life Slovakia. If you believe in yourself, work hard and want to progress, the company will give you the opportunity to do so. There isn’t a strict hierarchy here.

How did your colleagues perceive it?

Although I was more junior than many of my colleagues, they supported me and wished me well. I believe that attitude is very important, and my attitude was that I wanted to create good working conditions and allow people to do their jobs. That’s probably the main role of a line manager. This approach met with both understanding and success. The testing department grew considerably in the following years. We worked on new projects and trained new employees, who then moved forward. It’s a real joint effort.

If someone is looking for a Tester job at msg life Slovakia, how would you describe this department to them?

It’s primarily a ‘gateway to IT’, so if someone is considering this field and doesn’t have any experience yet, testing is a good place to start. At msg life Slovakia, knowledge of German is essential. The company is gradually working on incorporating English into projects, but this is a long-term endeavour and not feasible everywhere. From a tester position, you can progress to either a business analyst or an integrator role, both of which are very promising career paths.

As far as the working atmosphere is concerned, I believe this is one of the advantages of working at msg life Slovakia. This applies not only to colleagues, but also to management and staff. I think this is a long-term merit of the managing directors, Milan and Robert, who have cultivated such a culture for several years now. They participate in company events and take an interest in their colleagues. They have treated me particularly well and communicated with me in a special way.

In addition, I like how we present this externally. For example, we include photos of our colleagues in advertisements to give people outside the company an idea of the atmosphere at team-building events. We have received positive feedback from both internal staff and applicants, which makes me very happy.

You also took a break from running the testing department for a while and took the opportunity to spend some time on parental leave. How do you evaluate this time, what did it bring you?

Yes, I took two months of parental leave. My wife was on maternity leave at the time, so I wasn’t alone — I have two kids. We enjoyed spending time as a family, especially when the kids were young. I changed my daily routine, stopped working altogether, and helped with childcare, which can be challenging at times because there’s no ‘end of shift’. I also took the opportunity to switch off and reinforce the idea that no one is irreplaceable at work. This gave me some distance and, of course, enabled me to build a deeper relationship with the kids. At that time, I had no idea what my next career move would be — I was just focused on my family.

Your next step in your career was promotion to managing director. How do you feel about that?

If someone had told me fifteen years ago how my work would evolve, I would have thought they were talking about science fiction. I never thought I would reach this level of responsibility. It’s a significant role, and I have a lot of respect for it. When I received the offer, I consulted my wife. She’s a wonderful wife who made this decision easy for me. Since she has just returned to work after maternity leave, she felt that it was now ‘my turn’ to advance my career. She currently works part-time, so she can juggle that with family responsibilities. I’ll be doing business trips abroad, especially to Slovakia and Germany, but for now, it’s manageable. This is another benefit of working at msg life Slovakia, where everyone understands that employees also have a private life and that a solution can always be found if necessary. Many of my colleagues congratulated me, which made me very happy.

Milan Patassy, Robert Hess, Michal Zachar and Jan Vatter
Milan Patassy, Robert Hess, Michal Zachar and Jan Vatter

You’ve also got a lot of new tasks coming up; we planned the timeslot for this interview three weeks in advance. What’s your recipe for work-life balance?

In my free time, I like to spend time with my family, play sports and pursue my hobbies. I am a trained musician who specialises in classical, film and pop music. I enjoy folklore and played in a cimbalom band for many years. I also play the accordion and had a rock band while studying. After university, however, I had to face reality and accept that I couldn’t pursue a professional career in music. I have kept it as a hobby, and I would like to encourage my children to take it up, too. I also enjoy cycling, swimming and reading, especially non-fiction. To save time, I often listen to audiobooks. I am particularly interested in IT, science and physics and take online courses in these subjects. However, I also enjoy listening to music and learning about art. In fact, I bought waterproof headphones so that I can swim and listen to audiobooks simultaneously. This is how I relax and make effective use of my time.

What would you like to contribute to the management of msg life Slovakia? You will also be part of the expansion of the company.

msg and the environment is constantly changing, so it is up to management to identify areas where change is important. Yes, we are planning to expand our cooperation to Asia. When we were last there, we were just checking out the teams and the first communication had only just begun. Now, we are embarking on active cooperation. My task will probably be to find a suitable model that maintains the position of the Slovak branches while training people in India. We have done this before with Portugal and it was very successful. Slovakia’s advantages are our expertise in the required areas and, of course, our knowledge of German.

We are also facing many challenges with artificial intelligence. I see it as an opportunity in positions where there is a shortage of IT experts and also as an automation tool for various administrative activities. I believe that AI can partly solve the problem of an ageing population and the related shortage of workers. I am actively using Chat GPT myself and I think it would be ideal if everyone had an assistant to help them in some activities. Within the msg group we are already using some of the tools to assist with programming as well, first measurements show an increase in efficiency. However, we still need to investigate this in the longer term. These are also the challenges that await msg in the coming years.

Sounds like a lot of great challenges await you, but are there any activities that you enjoy more than others?

It changes over time. I like the communication, the direct approach, and also when we have to solve a challenge. Strategic thinking is also interesting to me -where do we want to get to in the longer term? This is something I would like to pursue. I think there will be more time for that as well, as my role as a Test Manager is coming to an end. Now I’m going to stop doing project work, so I hope that there will be more room for such activities too.

What advice would you give to colleagues who also want to advance their careers?

Do not be afraid to take responsibility, take initiative, or seize opportunities – even if we often feel we’re not there yet. These are normal feelings when facing new challenges. msg life Slovakia is a company where we try to recognise the contributions of individuals properly, not to suppress them. Not everyone may become a member of the management, but professional advancement is highly in demand. The company is growing; we are constantly advertising new jobs, new staff are coming on board, and it’s necessary for current colleagues to move forward and train new ones. I think the company always tries to reward this with various employee benefits as well.

Our colleague Jakub programmed robots and participated in the SICK solution Hackathon. How did it turn out?

Jakub has a close relationship to innovation. He has programmed robotic arms and participated in the SICK Hackathon. Although there are several similar hackathons organized by different companies, such as online hackathons, events like Hackathon Kosice or Hackathon Bratislava, Jakub went all the way to Germany, where he and his team were successful. Read in this interview what is the Hackathon, what it entails, what idea Jakub and his team presented and how the competition was run.

How did you get into programming robotic arms?

It was my previous job. During my studies I learned to program PLCs, robotic arms and everything in the field of industrial automation, i.e. sensor systems, motors and so on. It was based on my field of study, which was focused on programming and design of automatic lines. Moreover, it was my hobby at the time.

Have you managed to achieve any success in this area?

Yes, after a successful presentation of my security solution, which used a laser scanner and light barriers from SICK company, I was approached by their sales manager with an offer to take part in their Hackaton tender. I agreed because it was a great opportunity to try out the R&D environment and I wanted to show that robots that can sometimes pose a danger can be integrated with humans. That was also the intention of my entire high school thesis.

I have participated in various domestic competitions such as the Technical Idea of the Year. An example of another competition is ENERSOL, where I scored points in the regional round with a project of a factory that uses IR cameras and the whole production takes place in the dark, without people and visible light. I didn’t participate in the national round, even though I was nominated.

Did you prepare for the Hackathon in any special way?

It is impossible to prepare for the Hackathon, because although we had templates of various real projects, we got the task only on the spot. Then we received the equipment and had approximately 48 hours to develop a solution. After that time, the ideas were presented and we waited to see if ours would be awarded. The whole thing meant a few days without sleep, so all I could do to prepare was get a good night’s sleep.

What were your feelings before the competition?

I was pretty freaked out because I was one of the youngest participants, if not the youngest ever to attend their Hackathon. Most of the time, it’s attended by students who are finishing college, and I only finished high school this year. I also had to travel more than 1000 kilometres by car and then spend hours solving the task with a team I didn’t know beforehand.

Jakub's team CYBERVORTEX
Jakub’s CyberVortex team

Who was in your team?

We called our team CyberVortex and it had five members. Apart from me, there was an Indian with a focus on robotics and augmented reality, two students from Georgia who focused on mathematics, programming and algorithm creation, and a student from Bangladesh who was an artificial intelligence expert. I think it was the perfect composition because the mathematicians thought through the algorithm and “pushed” our solution to the AWS cloud. Thanks to artificial intelligence and augmented reality, we took our project from computers to the real world and my job was to gather the information, make sure each team member had everything they needed and present the solution itself.

What competitors did you have?

The competition was open to anyone. There were students from all over the world, and not only from the IT field. Even a person with a non-technical background can participate in the Hackathon. This is done through a selection round, where they assess whether a person with a given background and experience would be an asset to the selected topics. My application included a focus on robotics and I think that my experience with systems administration, which I am currently working on within msg life Slovakia, was also successful. In the end, 107 students from 22 countries participated in the hackathon, forming 23 teams. Each participant has their participation and costs fully covered, which is not cheap at all, so the selection is very careful.

What solution have you created together?

CyberVortex focused on a cloud-based solution that collects, visualizes and analyzes data from an autonomous vehicle. So it was necessary to solve algorithms for trajectory visualization in the 3D world, processing of lidar data and sending to the Cloud. This was a solution to automate the SICK factory in Germany, where small vehicles should be able to move autonomously, which is already done, but there were some changes that needed to be made. The aim was also to speed up the identification of AGV vehicle problems.

Check out the interview with Jakub from Sick Hackathon
Check out the interview with Jakub from Sick Hackathon. Click on the image to view it.

Who won the competition in the end?

The team that created the electric car app. Such solutions already exist, of course, but the benefit of this app was that it was possible to reserve a place and then pay for charging at private stations that are not part of the major networks. However, after the competition was over, the ideas were still being consulted and it became clear that ours might be developed further by SICK.

What did you gain from participating in the Hackathon? Would you recommend it to others?

100% yes. I had the opportunity to meet other cultures, coordinate a team, keep it going and develop an interesting solution. So it wasn’t just about building hard skills, but also soft skills. All this was happening under time pressure and without sleep. One also has the opportunity to meet talented people and people from big companies, which are all valuable contacts. I was therefore happy to be able to participate

to use not only for personal visibility, but also for the visibility of msg life Slovakia, where I now work. I was losing faith in the fact that big companies in Slovakia really care about their employees, but at msg life they clearly proved to me that they really care about people and their work.

Although I have a degree in programming and automation, I increasingly find that I get more satisfaction from leading and presenting projects like this than from coding them. This is one of the reasons why I changed my original focus. This is probably why the IT admin position suits me better. At msg life Slovakia, I like the great team and superb facilities very much.

Jakub, System Admin
Jakub, System Admin

If you’re interested in Jakub’s story and would also like to pursue a career in IT, take a look at our job offers. In case you don’t find a suitable one, feel free to leave us a CV. We are always looking for young talents like Jakub.

msgNews: reconstruction, team events, lunches together and Full Remote work

Read in our msgNews what challenges the summer of 2021 has brought us and what changes have taken place at msg life Slovakia. Summer is usually a busy time for us, but this summer was different. Due to the pandemic, we still continued to work from home and only met occasionally. Many things have changed in that time, we have renovated the company premises and changed the way we do interviews. For more than a year, we were more or less only in virtual contact with our colleagues, so it was time to get together again and boost our team spirit. We organised joint themed lunches and various team events. Read what has changed for us and what challenges the summer of 2021 has brought us.

Despite the fact that we were in a more favourable pandemic situation during the hot summer months, we decided to continue working from home. “Our staff have had the opportunity to continue to work in a Home Office format. Although the situation has improved somewhat, we didn’t want to underestimate anything and put our colleagues at risk. In addition, it turned out that we can work effectively as a team also remotely,” says Dominika, HR Recruiter. This was one of the reasons why the company decided to rethink the way they work. At the beginning of September, msg life Slovakia introduced a more flexible work schedule.

Hybrid and Full Remote mode

We currently have Home Office in place in our company, reducing the risk of virus transmission. However, the office premises remain open to all, and employees can visit our offices at any time if they need to. Our company has also introduced Full Remote mode for some positions, which is designed especially for employees travelling to work from a longer distance.
Hybrid mode joined by Full Remote mode
With Hybrid mode and Full Remote mode, our remote employees do not have to travel long hours to work.

Renovation of the premises in Bratislava

Working from home also brought a small positive – we started renovating the premises of the Bratislava office. “In the building on Hraničná Street, we have been renovating the company premises for the last few months – we have renewed the corridors on all five floors, modernised the toilets and showers, and we are also planning to renew the office furniture so that employees feel more comfortable when they return to the office,” says Zuzka, Office Manager.
A view of the renovation of the msg-life office in Bratislava
In our Bratislava office we renovated the meeting room, corridors, toilets and showers.

New Full Remote jobs and benefits

msg life Slovakia is constantly growing, we currently have more than twenty open job positions. A new feature is the possibility to work in Full Remote mode. These are mainly positions in the field of Java development or insurance. Interviews continue to take place online, just apply via a short form. Although the new employees will work mainly from home, they will not be deprived of the rich benefits program. “The company gym, massage, language courses and relaxation zone are still available to all those who are interested,” adds Zuzka.

Team events and joint themed lunches

During the summer months we held a series of company events and met with colleagues who work in Hybrid mode. “Our colleagues had the opportunity to attend various events such as Health Week. Especially for our female colleagues, we organized a Ladies Week, during which they could try yoga, meditation, painting or massage classes,” says Zuzka. Our adrenaline was raised by white water rafting, wakeboarding and action shootouts during laser tag.
Shot of msg-life colleagues painting during ladies week
During Ladies Week, colleagues could use their creativity in a painting lesson.
There was a lot of interest in the joint events from employees and many of them had positive feedback, so we decided to organize some events during the autumn as well. “The adrenaline lovers also had their chance in October, when we took part in go-kart and laser tag races. Colleagues who currently work mainly independently suddenly had to work together as a team, and this made their relationships even stronger,” Zuzka adds. We organized themed group lunches in our relaxation area to rebuild workplace relationships and prepare colleagues for a partial return to the office. We enjoyed an American lunch full of burgers, an Asian lunch with mountains of sushi, and an Italian lunch where we had fantastic pizza. To make the shared lunches even more interesting, we also introduced vegan dishes, giving colleagues the chance to try a healthier alternative to some of their favorite meals. Paradoxically, the real star of the event turned out to be the vegan donuts. In autumn, after a longer time, we met again and during the festive season we enjoyed fresh and crispy roast goose, of course in OTP mode. At many of our events, our youngest participants were also present, which made us very happy.

New job opportunities for you too

In addition to interesting corporate events, we have also added new attractive job offers. For example, you can get a job in testing or software development, in mathematics or software migration and project management. Don’t hesitate to check out all our jobs we offer in both Home Office and Full Remote mode with great benefits. If you’d like to learn more about each position, we’ve prepared job descriptions. Don’t forget to follow our msg News, which serves as a newsletter. You can find out what’s happening and other news in the next issue of msg News.

See some photos from our events